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	<title>Comments on: Search within files is STILL badly broken in Windows Vista</title>
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		<title>By: thecomputertuneup</title>
		<link>http://www.sampablokuper.com/2008/07/23/search-within-files-is-still-badly-broken-in-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-10439</link>
		<dc:creator>thecomputertuneup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Try this... it worked for me...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I needed to look for some invoice numbers in files that were *.edi...  I added the file type edi into what is search... and clicked on index properties and contents... and it worked.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good luck
http://www.watchingthenet.com/add-remove-file-types-to-windows-vista-search-index.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks Pat&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this&#8230; it worked for me&#8230;</p>

<p>I needed to look for some invoice numbers in files that were *.edi&#8230;  I added the file type edi into what is search&#8230; and clicked on index properties and contents&#8230; and it worked.</p>

<p>Good luck
<a href="http://www.watchingthenet.com/add-remove-file-types-to-windows-vista-search-index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.watchingthenet.com/add-remove-file-types-to-windows-vista-search-index.html</a></p>

<p>Thanks Pat</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sampablokuper</title>
		<link>http://www.sampablokuper.com/2008/07/23/search-within-files-is-still-badly-broken-in-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>sampablokuper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Vexen, I entirely agree, and I&#039;m not aware of any real comment from Microsoft on the issue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If anyone from Microsoft reads this blog, please feel free to comment with a link to a response!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vexen, I entirely agree, and I&#8217;m not aware of any real comment from Microsoft on the issue.</p>

<p>If anyone from Microsoft reads this blog, please feel free to comment with a link to a response!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Vexen Crabtree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vexen Crabtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m having all these problems too; with or without indexing, I simply can&#039;t search the content of text files such as .html and .css files. It returns many files that don&#039;t contain the text and misses files that do. The files it returns don&#039;t have the text in their filepath either, I just can&#039;t see why they&#039;re in the results.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What does Microsoft say about these problems? People say we shoudn&#039;t &quot;expect&quot; features, but search &quot;features&quot; have appeared in advertising material for Windows Vista so it seems like we have every right to expect solutions that work - or our (lots of) money back.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having all these problems too; with or without indexing, I simply can&#8217;t search the content of text files such as .html and .css files. It returns many files that don&#8217;t contain the text and misses files that do. The files it returns don&#8217;t have the text in their filepath either, I just can&#8217;t see why they&#8217;re in the results.</p>

<p>What does Microsoft say about these problems? People say we shoudn&#8217;t &#8220;expect&#8221; features, but search &#8220;features&#8221; have appeared in advertising material for Windows Vista so it seems like we have every right to expect solutions that work &#8211; or our (lots of) money back.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sampablokuper</title>
		<link>http://www.sampablokuper.com/2008/07/23/search-within-files-is-still-badly-broken-in-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>sampablokuper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Ger,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it isn&#039;t working for me. I searched for *.doc AND &quot;cherie&quot; on a drive that contained a Word document (.doc extension) with the word &quot;cherie&quot; in it. Vista didn&#039;t find it, even when I enabled the &quot;search non-indexed files&quot; and &quot;search within files&quot; options.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;spk&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ger,</p>

<p>Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it isn&#8217;t working for me. I searched for *.doc AND &#8220;cherie&#8221; on a drive that contained a Word document (.doc extension) with the word &#8220;cherie&#8221; in it. Vista didn&#8217;t find it, even when I enabled the &#8220;search non-indexed files&#8221; and &#8220;search within files&#8221; options.</p>

<p>spk</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ger</title>
		<link>http://www.sampablokuper.com/2008/07/23/search-within-files-is-still-badly-broken-in-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Ger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Got it - after 6 months!
*.cpp AND &quot;UpdateExport&quot; in the search box will find all instances of the string &quot;UpdateExport&quot; in my cpp files.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its slow - even with indexing, and I dont know yet if it gets everything&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got it &#8211; after 6 months!
*.cpp AND &#8220;UpdateExport&#8221; in the search box will find all instances of the string &#8220;UpdateExport&#8221; in my cpp files.</p>

<p>Its slow &#8211; even with indexing, and I dont know yet if it gets everything</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sampablokuper</title>
		<link>http://www.sampablokuper.com/2008/07/23/search-within-files-is-still-badly-broken-in-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>sampablokuper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Nick,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Having now had a chance to try the suggestions in Josh Stauffer’s post, I see that it isn&#039;t quite what I was after, and neither, I&#039;m afraid, are the other suggestions you&#039;ve made. They&#039;re still helpful in a general sense, and I&#039;m grateful for your having posted them, but I&#039;m afraid they don&#039;t quite address the problem I was blogging about.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The real problem, in my view, is that &lt;i&gt;on-demand&lt;/i&gt; searching within files (as opposed to searches using the index) is both &lt;i&gt;harder&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;less reliable&lt;/i&gt; on Vista than on XP (or, for that matter, Windows 2000).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The suggestions you&#039;ve made don&#039;t solve that (though they do solve other issues), so I&#039;m still looking for answers. Why is Vista&#039;s on-demand searching &lt;i&gt;so shoddy&lt;/i&gt;, in terms of usability and functionality (did Microsoft fire the Vista search team before they&#039;d finished their job? It sure seems like the underlying code is only half-finished...)? And, what can I, as a user, do to repair it (is there a patch that I&#039;m missing?)?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,</p>

<p>Having now had a chance to try the suggestions in Josh Stauffer’s post, I see that it isn&#8217;t quite what I was after, and neither, I&#8217;m afraid, are the other suggestions you&#8217;ve made. They&#8217;re still helpful in a general sense, and I&#8217;m grateful for your having posted them, but I&#8217;m afraid they don&#8217;t quite address the problem I was blogging about.</p>

<p>The real problem, in my view, is that <i>on-demand</i> searching within files (as opposed to searches using the index) is both <i>harder</i> and <i>less reliable</i> on Vista than on XP (or, for that matter, Windows 2000).</p>

<p>The suggestions you&#8217;ve made don&#8217;t solve that (though they do solve other issues), so I&#8217;m still looking for answers. Why is Vista&#8217;s on-demand searching <i>so shoddy</i>, in terms of usability and functionality (did Microsoft fire the Vista search team before they&#8217;d finished their job? It sure seems like the underlying code is only half-finished&#8230;)? And, what can I, as a user, do to repair it (is there a patch that I&#8217;m missing?)?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
		<link>http://www.sampablokuper.com/2008/07/23/search-within-files-is-still-badly-broken-in-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;another tip - you can click &#039;search tools&#039; drop down (after you do a search it appears) - then &#039;search options&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;from there you can select &#039;always search filenames and contents&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another tip - you need to reboot your machine for a lot of these changes to take effect (or it says restart the service but i cant find that).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Allowing windows to build new indexes in selected locations may also be required.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr /&gt;

&lt;p&gt;yes you&#039;re right - its all buried and awkward. Like the snipper tool - handy but only if you know it exists!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks</p>

<p>another tip &#8211; you can click &#8217;search tools&#8217; drop down (after you do a search it appears) &#8211; then &#8217;search options&#8217;.</p>

<p>from there you can select &#8216;always search filenames and contents&#8217;.</p>

<p>Another tip &#8211; you need to reboot your machine for a lot of these changes to take effect (or it says restart the service but i cant find that).</p>

<p>Allowing windows to build new indexes in selected locations may also be required.</p>

<hr />

<p>yes you&#8217;re right &#8211; its all buried and awkward. Like the snipper tool &#8211; handy but only if you know it exists!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sampablokuper</title>
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		<dc:creator>sampablokuper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Nick,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the link to Josh Stauffer&#039;s post. That&#039;s useful indeed, and I&#039;ll try it out when I have a chance. I wish Microsoft had documented this better.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the meantime, I&#039;ve been using &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grep&lt;/a&gt; on Vista via &lt;a href=&quot;www.cygwin.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cygwin&lt;/a&gt;, but it&#039;s a cumbersome solution (firing up a shell and using the command line) compared to XP&#039;s searching behaviour.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,</p>

<p>Thanks for the link to Josh Stauffer&#8217;s post. That&#8217;s useful indeed, and I&#8217;ll try it out when I have a chance. I wish Microsoft had documented this better.</p>

<p>In the meantime, I&#8217;ve been using <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep" rel="nofollow">grep</a> on Vista via <a href="www.cygwin.com" rel="nofollow">cygwin</a>, but it&#8217;s a cumbersome solution (firing up a shell and using the command line) compared to XP&#8217;s searching behaviour.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
		<link>http://www.sampablokuper.com/2008/07/23/search-within-files-is-still-badly-broken-in-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;solution:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.joshstauffer.com/2008/01/search-for-text-inside-of-php-files-with-vista/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>solution:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.joshstauffer.com/2008/01/search-for-text-inside-of-php-files-with-vista/" rel="nofollow">http://www.joshstauffer.com/2008/01/search-for-text-inside-of-php-files-with-vista/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the problem is that it only searches certain file types (eg .html or .doc) - but not, say, .php.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem is that it only searches certain file types (eg .html or .doc) &#8211; but not, say, .php.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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